"Yeah, but having been on both side of the situation, as an untrained Young Avenger, and fully registered Avenger, I still feel like your gives people far too many outs to escape justice." There was something about the whole secret identity thing that simply didn't sit well with him anymore.
"You have weapons with 'theological implications', if you were to use one and Stamford II were to happen, y-- okay, well, you'd probably turn yourself in, but if it were up to the other Defenders, how many of them do you think would hand you over to HAMMER?" Because, if Nate was being honest, he'd be conflicted as hell over having to take Jaime into custody. "And be honest about it, because damn near every member of your team thinks they have the right to tell any agent of HAMMER to piss off, just because they don't like the fact that Osborn's in charge." Or Lex Luthor, either, really.
"And even if we go smaller scale, not even Stamford level stuff, like--
"When I first formed the Young Avengers, one of our first missions was a hostage rescue. But we screwed up, got captured, and nearly got everyone killed. One of the hostages had to save us.
"In the end, everybody got rescued, thankfully; and the girl who saved us joined the team a day later. You can write it off by saying 'all's well that ends well,' but... as part of HAMMER, I don't have that luxury anymore. If you were there, you'd probably have given us a stern talking to, or something like that. But if something goes wrong now? I still have to answer to someone for my mistakes, even if things manage to work themselves out in the end."
He didn't ask the question, but it sort of hung in the air. Who do the Defenders answer to?
"I find it kind of comforting, personally," he added, shrugging a bit as if to say 'not sure why.' Though perhaps it was the fact that it forced him to constantly evaluate his behavior, and kept him on the straight and narrow.
"Training is good; I could've used it then, and I'm glad I have it now, but oversight and accountability out in the field is also something you can't overlook. Without it, people tend to get lazy and careless and sloppy, no matter how well trained they are. And even if they don't do the big thing like Stamford, they can still do a lot of little things that add up.
"...maybe assign them a HAMMER liaison to report to regularly, who reviews and evaluates their performance in the field?"
...it was a not unreasonable compromise, if nothing else.
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"You have weapons with 'theological implications', if you were to use one and Stamford II were to happen, y-- okay, well, you'd probably turn yourself in, but if it were up to the other Defenders, how many of them do you think would hand you over to HAMMER?" Because, if Nate was being honest, he'd be conflicted as hell over having to take Jaime into custody. "And be honest about it, because damn near every member of your team thinks they have the right to tell any agent of HAMMER to piss off, just because they don't like the fact that Osborn's in charge." Or Lex Luthor, either, really.
"And even if we go smaller scale, not even Stamford level stuff, like--
"When I first formed the Young Avengers, one of our first missions was a hostage rescue. But we screwed up, got captured, and nearly got everyone killed. One of the hostages had to save us.
"In the end, everybody got rescued, thankfully; and the girl who saved us joined the team a day later. You can write it off by saying 'all's well that ends well,' but... as part of HAMMER, I don't have that luxury anymore. If you were there, you'd probably have given us a stern talking to, or something like that. But if something goes wrong now? I still have to answer to someone for my mistakes, even if things manage to work themselves out in the end."
He didn't ask the question, but it sort of hung in the air. Who do the Defenders answer to?
"I find it kind of comforting, personally," he added, shrugging a bit as if to say 'not sure why.' Though perhaps it was the fact that it forced him to constantly evaluate his behavior, and kept him on the straight and narrow.
"Training is good; I could've used it then, and I'm glad I have it now, but oversight and accountability out in the field is also something you can't overlook. Without it, people tend to get lazy and careless and sloppy, no matter how well trained they are. And even if they don't do the big thing like Stamford, they can still do a lot of little things that add up.
"...maybe assign them a HAMMER liaison to report to regularly, who reviews and evaluates their performance in the field?"
...it was a not unreasonable compromise, if nothing else.