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Raphael Hamato ([personal profile] othersdestructive) wrote in [community profile] ya_assemble2014-11-11 10:26 pm

[LN] [Locked to Mikey and Bunny]

"It wasn't a big deal. Everything worked out fine and I had an out so I don't see what the problem is. All of you are making into a bigger thing than it needs to be."

After storming off from the argument with Bunny over Raph running off to get Winchester's brother himself, he'd dragged Mikey into playing a video game. In reality, he'd have preferred to be alone but he could tell Mikey had been bothered by the fact he'd run off alone and gotten injured so he mostly just wanted to show him his arm was okay enough to play video games with it.

The problem was Mikey was still harping on what had happened out of concern.

Rather than being annoyed at Mikey, Raph was trying his best to put Mikey's concern to rest while channeling his annoyance into kicking his butt at Mario Kart.
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[personal profile] mywarrenmyrules 2014-11-12 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
"More's the pity," Bunny drawled from the back of the room where he leaned in the door frame, arms crossed.

He locked eyes with Raph. "I have to talk to you."
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[personal profile] bestnamer 2014-11-12 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
Raph's tone, overlapped by Bunny's tone, made Mikey come to a decision real quick.

"Wow, uh, boy, is it break time already?"

He put his game controller down - slowly.

"Think I'll just, uh - go get some soda. Yeah. You guys want anything? Orange? Grape? No? I'll just get a range."

And he skedaddled, ninja-fast.
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[personal profile] bringinghopewithme 2014-11-12 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
"Oh, well, in that case, guess I'll just hop on back home now that we've sorted that out."

Bunny used the lack of eye contact as time to roll his eyes too.
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[personal profile] bringinghopewithme 2014-11-12 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
"Look, if telling yourself that not going out alone is just to appease my sense of over-caution, whatever gets you to look before you leap."

There's no way it's that easy though. Absolutely no way.

"Meanwhile, out here in the real world, your pride isn't the most important thing on everyone's minds. That's what this is about, isn't it?"
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[personal profile] bringinghopewithme 2014-11-12 06:12 am (UTC)(link)
"No? Then what? Just for the sake of adventure? Because if it is, believe it or not, I've been there. I know how that can call you out of your senses, especially when you've got a bunch of elders telling you not to do it."

If Raph started reminding him too much of himself he really didn't even know HOW he was going to argue him down from that. It wasn't like he was alive today because he played it safe and listened to his elders.

He tried to soften his tone as he focused again on the pride angle.

"But you're also good, best I've seen at your age, and I'm guessing you're not used to getting caught in that much danger. Tell me if I'm wrong."

No doubt Raph would.
Edited 2014-11-12 06:16 (UTC)
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[personal profile] bringinghopewithme 2014-11-12 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
He wants to say "no you don't," but from what he knows, they DO deal with danger frequently. Just maybe not on the vivisection scale.

Instead he says, "But why risk it? Who says YOU have to be ready, alone? Because Jack and I sure aren't. Nico and the twins aren't. Your brother said the exact opposite. We all heard it, more than once."

This is going to go into a very dark, sad place for him, soon, but it needs to go there for Raph to get his priorities in order.

"You have a brother who wants to keep you safe, as much as you wanna keep him safe. Trust me." He breathed deep, in and out. "Your brother's a lot more important than your pride."
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[personal profile] bringinghopewithme 2014-11-12 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
Bunny caught it at the absolute last minute without even a flinch.

"Y'know, I've been throwing weapons before your country existed. The space of time in which your country DID not exist that I was throwing weapons around is longer than the space of time your country HAS existed."

If it wasn't about his pride, then he could take a little jab to it, surely.

"You'd have to be Jack to get one past me."

He flipped the controller back to Raph.

"So if it's not about your pride, what IS it about?"
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[personal profile] mywarrenmyrules 2014-11-12 06:45 pm (UTC)(link)
"Nah. When you go putting you life on the line like that for no good reason, it's your brother's business. I didn't hear you listening to him, though."

So there he was. And there was truth in what Raph said, his business was his own, and that extended to the reasons behind his bad decisions, if he didn't want to talk about them. Bunny could keep answering his anger with sarcasm, but all that would do was buy another comment before he had to get sincere, and really, would it do any good? Probably not.

"Look, don't do this to him. You're good, but is it really worth risking getting yourself hurt and your family having to deal with watching you BE hurt to prove that?"
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[personal profile] mywarrenmyrules 2014-11-13 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
"So you got what you need, and now you'll never go out without reasonable backup again. Is that what I should believe, or just what you want me to?"

How was he supposed to trust the kid? Not that Raphael needed Bunny's trust. Bunny was the one who'd never forgive himself if something else happened to Raph because he felt like taking on more than he knew was there to chew on.

Raphael didn't want to feel like he needed to be protected. Bunny knew darn well he couldn't even APPROACH the subject that way with the kid, for all that he claimed pride wasn't a factor.

But that didn't change the fact that if he didn't go home to his brothers and the sensei who'd raised him, ultimately, it would be because Bunny didn't do his job well enough. And his job was as of late so complicated.

He knew too well that the world wasn't as simple as "stay at home and stay safe."

"Control is an illusion," he warned. "Especially here. I don't want you to be afraid but you need to - I need you to know that. And not just stand there telling me what you think I want to hear because you want me to go away. I'm old, but I'm not too old to remember doing that."
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[personal profile] mywarrenmyrules 2014-11-13 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
"I don't know what you think. I don't know you. All I know is that you could have gotten yourself killed tonight, and I don't know how I would even begin to help your brother through that, because I don't know him either."

Admittedly, Mikey was a little easier to figure out than Raph. He had a lot more that he was considering saying when Raph shattered the toy in a burst of anger and declared that nothing ever turned out all right.

"That's not true."

He stated it without anger, like you'd state the weather. And then didn't offer proof.

He wanted to see where Raph took this road.
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[personal profile] mywarrenmyrules 2014-11-13 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
Bunny waited patiently through the whole rant, leaning against the wall for the duration. As Raph's story spilled out, his frustration softened. By the time Raph was done, his expression had reached sympathy and held there.

"You've been through a lot," he said, and when he spoke, his voice was much more thoughtful than before. A little distant. "Makes a lotta sense you'd need to get a challenge in for yourself, get your bearings back that way. Even if it was dangerous. But you're right. What's done is done. No sense me harping on it anymore."

He pushed himself off from the wall, almost as if he was leaving, but pausing -

"It IS really ironic, y'know. Me, telling a kid not to go out on his own, not to go looking for trouble. I mean, of all people. My sensei used to tell me the same thing. Said I was going to get myself killed too young. Said I was going to get someone else killed, if I kept dragging the younger pookas out to do the stupid things I did. Baiting lions, stealing from the Aztecs . . ."

He shrugged.

"It was never anything smart. Really, nothing smart at all. I'd always drag my brothers and sisters out of trouble, but y'know, that was the least I had to, draggin' 'em in in the first place . . . I never did get any of them hurt, but you know what, if things had kept on, one day I might've. But what's done is done," he repeated. "Can't change the past. No sense harping on myself for it now."

"Anyway, he wanted me to stay home, where it was safe. Wanted us all to. Forever. Every last one of us - there were hundreds all in the warren together, and I was the only one who just wouldn't do it."

He shrugged.

"If I'd obeyed him, I wouldn't be alive today. But if I'd taken any of my brothers out with me that night, maybe they still would."

He manages to finish in the same calm, even, if distant, tone, but without meeting Raph's eyes.

"You never got to meet Anansi. He's the Guardian of Stories. He'd tell you you're wrong, too - all this world is made up of stories. That doesn't mean they're all happy ones. But I'll tell you - and he'd back me up on this if he was here - the sad part of a story isn't always its end."

He looked back at Raph again, all the anger and frustration drained away. He got it. He got it all too well.

"I'm very sorry about your father."

He never, ever wanted anyone to be able to give him the same sort of genuine, sympathetic understanding.

"If you need to get out and react to it again without your brother - just let me know where you're going first. I won't get in your way."

Because he'd be behind Raph. Far enough behind that even a trained ninja might not notice him, but close enough that he'd know if the kid needed the backup he didn't want.

He turned to go.
Edited 2014-11-13 07:24 (UTC)
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[personal profile] bringinghopewithme 2014-11-14 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Bunny paused in the doorframe. "You can't drag anyone else into trouble here, because there's already trouble everywhere. Going out alone is the only way left to get yourself in more. And I didn't tell you so you'd be sorry."

He didn't like talking about his mortal life. "Sorry" didn't match what had been done to him, to his loved ones, to the world in the process. People so often said it when they heard, when he'd rather they realize he was trying to prove a point, not receive condolences. Sorry. There would never be enough "sorry" in the world.

And even if there could be, he did not live to make people sorry.

He leaned back in the doorway, staring at the frame opposite him.

"I told you because you need to know this isn't magical-happy-ending-land. Horror isn't a fresh import around these parts. It was here before you were. It was here before I was the only one of what I am."

He gestured around the Pole. "If everything you've seen here looks child-friendly, it's because we've been fighting for centuries to make it as close to that as possible. And we don't always succeed."

He hated saying so out loud, but it was true. There was always the hope of a far-flung future where they weren't needed, where the children had plenty of hope and wonder without them, but until then, they had work to do that didn't include believing their might infallible. And Raph's near-vivisection was proof of it, anyway.

"And now, not only do we have all the threats that kept us busy before, we have all the threats from all the possible worlds to consider. Including all of yours."

And four less Guardians to fight them. He wasn't going to go into the new guardians, and how they stacked up in comparison to the old ones. There just wasn't a comparison. A skilled 16 year old kid might stand in as a hero, but he wasn't a Guardian. Not really. There was no substitute for that much experience. Or that much dedication to the cause.

"And I told you because I want you to remember that you have a family to stay alive for. You have a family to compromise for. They make telling someone you're not sure of yourself braver than risking your skin to find out if you're all right. That's such a precious thing."

He was not happy to give an angry, impulsive kid he barely knew insight into his personal sorrows, but sometimes being a Guardian meant hurting, and sometimes that meant taking off your armor and baring scars that still hurt. A kid could be the sort of person to reach out and dig their claws into a vulnerability when they saw it, but being a Guardian meant letting them if that was what they had to do.

"I told you, not because I think you don't think about that already. But because I want you to think about it more. Ideally, every time you're thinking about going out into all that without someone to watch your back. I don't want you to be scared, or blindly obedient. I want to know that you understand the risk."

From Kuk, and to his family.
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[personal profile] mywarrenmyrules 2014-11-14 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
There was no response Bunny could think of in the moment that wasn't some variation on "that's stupid."

And he couldn't say that, because it was obvious this wasn't about stupidity. It was about feelings, and by that point, Bunny had let his get too raw.

He spared a second to consider if he was leaving because he was giving up or because he had miscalculated, let the conversation get too personal too soon, and decided on leaving. With a tap of his foot, the floor gave out beneath him, and closed up once he was gone.

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